How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– Foreshadowing

Tuesday, 19 June 2007

Were you aware that three child seats will not fit in anything short of an SUV or a Van? This is not because three children will not fit in a sensible car which gets 45mpg. They, and 8 or 9 others if trying hard enough, will. This means that if you have a child who has two friends, or two less popular children who timeshare a friend, or even three children of your own accessorised with pork-chops so as to entice even the friendship of the family mutt, you must buy a huge, gas-sucking hog of a car. You have no choice under the law. All because of a wall-eyed Egypto-Lebanese closet fascist who sought to strangle the world via the seat belt.

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Vagrant

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

Geez, poor old Ralph really takes a beating. But what he did was make the state recognize that bad faith with consumers and conspiracy to put them in harm's way are tortious activities and can be addressed as such by individuals seeking redress. It was the insurers who brought on the straitjacket of the nanny state.

By Vagrant on 20 June 2007 · 00:20
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Ashley

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

:) I know. It takes a nation to tango. His private/corporate personality is another good reason to take it out on him though. Believe me I’d rather get a shot at (almost) every living Congressor… Congressperson? But the list is too long and even when they’re known felons nobody cares. :(

[Got the theatrical bookends there.]

By Ashley on 20 June 2007 · 00:44
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Vagrant

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

I think the right word is Congresscritter, even if it is way too cuddly. They select for the appearance of that. Their genius is that the look and feel of it keeps the marks coming back for one more try.

Ralph is a pretty straightforward conservative: there is right and wrong -- there are rules and people should obey them -- the fish rots from the head. I'd love to see him as Attorney General. The perp walks of the Congresscritters and their patrons would make it worthwhile. Their sweating colleagues enthusiasm for prison reform would be worth seeing too.

You know that stupid commercial for cola? The one where all the happy people sing about teaching the world to sing (in perrrffecct harmonyyyyyy)? I'd like to teach the world to say, "no".

By Vagrant on 20 June 2007 · 01:09
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Ashley

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

The perp walks of the Congresscritters and their patrons would make it worthwhile. Their sweating colleagues enthusiasm for prison reform would be worth seeing too.

I’d indenture myself up for seven years of mine labor to see that happen.

(I understand Ralph to be a consummate hypocrite; I may be misinformed about his private/business persona which is supposedly 180° and well below board from what he insists upon in others.)

You know that stupid commercial for cola? The one where all the happy people sing about teaching the world to sing (in perrrffecct harmonyyyyyy)? I'd like to teach the world to say, "no".

I’d do fourteen years for that if it would mean what I’d hope.

By Ashley on 20 June 2007 · 01:26
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Vagrant

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

if it would mean what I’d hope.

No real chance of it, as far as I can see. The social engineering needed to to that could -- would -- be a cure worse than the disease. The left libertarians have a pretty convincing take on good intentions subverted into further entrenchment of power blocs. Maybe a little more healthy skepticism is possible.

By Vagrant on 20 June 2007 · 01:43
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rekounas

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

I bought a Mazda 5, 6 seats, good on gas compared to SUVs and Mini vans.

Don't go dissing Nader now. Gore or Nader for Prez. The only hope for the USA.

By rekounas on 20 June 2007 · 03:23
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Ashley

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

Gore was one of the most “Let’s bomb the shit out of the terrorists” guys in office. Somehow the Clinton years have gained an aura good governance. They were horrible. There were, in some ways, more conservative and racist than the Reagan years, they were scandal ridden (there were a dozen before the blue dress), and they sparked the worst domestic “terrorism” incident so far by killing the most American citizens in a White House approved police act so far. There is not one front-runner (or supposed contender) who isn’t … I’m out of expressions, go for a cliché: business as usual. They’re liars relying (ha-ha) on people who like what they hear and only have enough memory for the problems with the other guy.

None of the Dems want out of Iraq (except Gravel and whats-his-nose who ran Cleveland into the ground, I guess). None of the Republicans want out (except Paul, it seems).

By Ashley on 20 June 2007 · 11:59
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Vagrant

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

If Ralph runs, he's got my vote, in preference to everyone else that's announced so far. He's an exceptional fellow, any flaws notwithstanding.

By Vagrant on 20 June 2007 · 05:07
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Ashley

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

I do believe this is exactly the sort of thing that gets us where we always seem to be arriving. Overlooking obvious and lethal structural flaws because the façade is what Art History 101 learned us to appreciate.

By Ashley on 20 June 2007 · 12:03
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Vagrant

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

I do believe this is exactly the sort of thing that gets us where we always seem to be arriving. Overlooking obvious and lethal structural flaws because the façade is what Art History 101 learned us to appreciate

Fair points, all. I think it does make some small sense to try and get exceptional people into office, even if realistically the most one can hope for is a small managerial tweak. Sadly, the record of that in recent years is mostly poor in execution, very poor in support when accomplished, and poorly handled in the meltdown phase. I'm pretty well burned out on trying to get the support part going. What I've learned, if anything, is that it's better to seek out affinities and give them whatever assistance I can, especially if it has nothing at all to do with politics. That hasn't worked all that well either. Though it has worked better than anything else.

My potential Nader vote still has some value to people who matter to me. Other than that, there's not much.

By Vagrant on 20 June 2007 · 18:14
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Ashley

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

You’re not gonna talk me into running!

…scare me?

By Ashley on 20 June 2007 · 18:18
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Vagrant

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

I'm digging this deeper, but any support I have for any candidates necessarily has some animosity for them in that support. The tasks in office are so thankless that it would be hard to keep schadenfreude out of congratulations on a successful run. It's the gift that ruins lives.

I'd be happy to share squirrel repellent recipes with you, however.

By Vagrant on 20 June 2007 · 18:35
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Ashley

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

I think I’m about to—I have to consult with my astrologer, IOZ, and such—throw in for Ron Paul. One never knows and any man who’ll start dismantling the pointless military machine America carries like a drowning swimmer is worth … well, worth the “I told you sos” after someone else wins.

By Ashley on 20 June 2007 · 18:41
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Ashley

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

I also note that Congressional approval ratings—which is to say, as well you know, the amount of approval for, not by, the Congress—are at a historical low; well, since ’73 when they started asking around.

So the news isn’t all bad and if the low score is not due to the blaglands then I’m Hitler’s missing testical. Oh! Godwinned myself in the foot again.

By Ashley on 20 June 2007 · 18:47
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Vagrant

Re: How Ralph Nader caused global warming –or– Would everyone please stop trying to protect me? –or– …

He's causing a lot of hysteria in the prog world.

"He's a bigot!"
"He's a gold bug!"
"He's a new world order conspiracist!"

Well, whatever. He's the sanest Republican running for president. They're going to be voting for Hillary and trashing all their anti-war candidates. So there's not a lot of room for them to rattle on.

By Vagrant on 20 June 2007 · 18:54
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